By Ernie Magnotta
1974... Producer/director Bob Clark’s (Deathdream, Murder by Decree, A Christmas
Story) frightening and entertaining suspense-thriller Black Christmas is released and is lovingly devoured by a
horror-hungry audience. Expertly written by A. Roy Moore (The Last Chase), who was inspired by the urban legend “The
Babysitter and the Man Upstairs” as well as a real life murder case, this
excellent, Canadian-made horror film details a group of sorority sisters who
are terrorized and slaughtered during the holiday season by a mysterious
psychopath who, unbeknownst to everyone, is hiding in the sorority house attic.
More than just a marvelous piece of horror
cinema, the Gialli-influenced film went on to become quite influential in its
own right. Predating John Carpenter’s immortal and amazing Halloween by four years, the smart and stylish Black Christmas (aka Silent
Night, Evil Night and Stranger in the
House), which has already had two inferior 21st century remakes,
contains many elements that would not only find their way into the Carpenter
classic, but into the slasher sub-genre as well. Elements such as a mad killer
murdering on a beloved holiday; attractive teen victims; the POV shot as a
stand-in for the killer; nail-biting suspense; a female protagonist who fights
back, and the killer still being alive in the final scene can all be traced
back to Clark’s masterwork. The enjoyable film is also partly responsible for
the glut of Christmas-themed slashers which, each year, only seem to be growing
in number.
Featuring a top-notch cast—Margot Kidder
(1972’s Sisters, Superman: The Movie),
Olivia Hussey (1968’s Romeo and Juliet,
Psycho IV: The Beginning), Keir Dullea (2001:
A Space Odyssey, David and Lisa),
Andrea Martin (SCTV, My Big Fat Greek
Wedding), Art Hindle (The Brood,
1978’s Invasion of the Body Snatchers)
and the legendary John Saxon (Enter the
Dragon, 1984’s A Nightmare on Elm
Street) as well as incredibly talented character actors Doug McGrath, Les
Carlson, Marian Waldman, James Edmond and a very creepy score by composer Carl
Zittrer—Black Christmas is not only a
must-see, humorous and quite terrifying film, but, as already stated, an
important and, in my opinion, still underrated piece of horror history.
I was extremely fortunate to be able to speak
with gifted actress Lynne Griffin who not only plays the sweet and low-key
first victim, Clare Harrison, but whose now iconic image—a dead Clare sitting
in a rocking chair in the sorority house attic with a clear plastic bag over
her head—was used to promote the film. A veteran of stage, screen and
television, the Toronto native appeared in several other memorable films after Black Christmas including the comedy
classic Strange Brew (1983) and the
underrated slasher film Curtains
(1983). Although she was extremely busy, the lovely, gracious and insanely
funny Lynne took time out of her hectic schedule to chat with me about her fond
memories of Black Christmas.
Ernie Magnotta: How
did you get involved in the film?
Lynne Griffin: It was just a general audition. I
think the reason I got the part was because I told them I was a good swimmer
and that I could hold my breath for a long time.
EM: Because they needed
you to wear the plastic bag over your head?
LG: Right. Which is pretty funny when you think
about it. That’s how you get a part? (Laughs) Also, I mean, look at that face.
If there was ever one that was going to play the eternal virgin it was me. But
yeah, just a general audition. I don’t even remember if I met Bob Clark at the
audition or not, but it was a wonderfully fun shoot. And Bob Clark is Uncle Bob.
He just made every day really fun to be there; especially all my days in the
attic.
EM: A lot
of people don’t realize that, besides the horror and suspense, he was also
responsible for some of the lighter moments in the movie as well as for keeping
the ambiguous ending which Warner Bros. wanted him to change. And he made the
college student characters more realistic which only helped with the suspense
and scares. I’m such a fan of his and it’s a real shame what happened to him.
LG: Oh, so tragic. Oh, my God. And I know there
was going to be more greatness to come from Bob. Cut short unfortunately.
EM: Now, you
played someone very different from your usually funny, bubbly personality and
you did it quite convincingly. Was that difficult or were you able to just slip
right into it?
LG: Back then, I was actually very serious. I
was studying Shakespeare and was doing very dramatic work, so, when I played
Clare, I was in my element.
EM: Do you
remember how long you worked on the film?
LG: It was actually quite substantial because we
were doing all the initial party scenes and the phone call scenes and I
remember that we spent a lot of time shooting the attic stuff. I was probably
on it three, maybe four weeks.
EM: That’s
longer than I thought.
LG: Yeah, because things weren’t shot in
sequence. And I kind of remember it really being like a family/sorority sort of
feeling because we were there a lot and we were really getting to know one
another. There was always a nice feeling on set. And that always comes from the
top. That was Bob.
EM: I thought
it would have taken less time for you because I just assumed that they shot all
the attic scenes at once.
LG: They did. I kind of remember being around it
a lot, though. I don’t really know why that would be. It’s funny with some
films. There was one I shot in Vancouver where I was on hold for like three
weeks. I was sitting in a hotel room waiting for them to shoot some other stuff
with me and they just kept throwing per diem at me. So, when that happens it
feels like you’ve worked longer, but the actual filming that I was involved
with didn’t take all that time. The attic scenes definitely didn’t take three weeks
to film.
EM: I know that,
throughout the film, several different people played Billy, the demented and
horrifying, unseen killer, but do you remember who played him for both your
murder scene and your scenes in the attic?
LG: Camera operator Bert Dunk (an unsung hero of
the film who was also responsible for designing the equipment needed to film
all of the killer’s POV shots) strangled me in the closet with the plastic bag,
but Bob Clark rocked the rocking chair. Bob also did some of Billy’s voices,
but that was mostly done by actor Nick Mancuso.
EM: Such a great actor.
And I don’t think I’ve ever heard a more frightening or more insane-sounding
phone voice in all of horror cinema.
LG: Absolutely not.
EM: Did
you stick around the set even after your scenes were shot?
LG: Yeah, I think we all kind of hung out. And I
remained friends with Art Hindle. We’ve worked together a lot since then. We
once worked on an animated series where we played old lovers which was really
funny. Art always likes to remind me that, in Black Christmas, he was my first screen kiss. (Laughs) So, the
fact that we’re still sort of hanging out is very cool. And he’s one of the
funniest people on the planet.
EM: Nice.
He starred in a David Cronenberg film called “The Brood” which is a favorite of
mine. I love that film and he was great in it. I also always loved Margot
Kidder. Was she fun to work with?
LG: I adored Margot Kidder and I was enamored
with her all the way through just because of the way she works. She was doing a
lot of improv which was phenomenal, sensational and funny all the time. She
wasn’t standoffish at all. She was lovely. So was Andrea Martin and Keir
Dullea. Like I said, it was a very congenial and happy set. There wasn’t really
any negativity which was wonderful. I was trying to think if there was anything
juicy I could tell you, but no. They didn’t like tie the plastic bag around my
head so that I couldn’t breathe or anything like that. (Laughs) Yeah,
they were very sweet. When you shoot horror films, I think the general
atmosphere is to keep it very light and fun even though you’re doing something
that is really quite grotesque.
EM: It’s
not real, so it becomes funny.
LG: Right. You know you’re playing pretend and
it’s a bucket of fake blood or whatever. And that part of it I really like. If
it were taken really seriously I probably wouldn’t like doing it.
EM: I
agree. Tell me about working with Olivia Hussey.
LG: A lot of people think that Olivia is sort of
like aloof or standoffish, but I didn’t find her that way at all. Of course, it
was fascinating to pick her brain about working with Zeffirelli because she’d
done Romeo and Juliet for him and,
like I mentioned before, I had been working on a lot of Shakespeare too at that
time. She was really lovely. And we’re Facebook friends to this day.
EM: Oh,
that’s terrific. Now, unfortunately, we lost the great John Saxon. I know you
didn’t have any scenes together, but did you get to meet him?
LG: Oh, yes. And you know, for the longest time,
John Saxon came out and did the conventions and the panels with us. Art Hindle,
myself and John were always on the panels for Black Christmas. John was fabulous. I remember doing one Comic-Con
with him. I think it was a Comic-Con. Anyway, the line for people to see him
was like around the building and he was so lovely with every single person.
And, at that time, he was showing me the ropes about how I should behave at one
of these conventions which was really cool. He was a lovely man.
EM: How about Claude,
the cat? I heard he was difficult to get along with and pretty full of himself. (Laughs)
LG: (Laughs) Claude was not a happy cat. He did
not work well with others. I was sitting in the rocking chair and Claude didn’t
like being tossed onto my lap by Bob Clark. So he scratched me. Claude, not
Bob.
EM: Thanks
for clearing that up. (Laughs)
LG: (Laughs) Oh, and they sprayed catnip all
over my face so that Claude would lick my face while I was sitting in the
rocking chair.
EM: While
we’re on the subject of you in the rocking chair, I think it’s cool that, even
though your character was killed off at the very beginning of the film, she
still stays around for the entire movie because people are searching for her
and mentioning her and also because we keep seeing you up in the attic. You’re
actually who most people think of first when they think of “Black Christmas”
because that image of you in the rocking chair with the plastic bag on your
head was used for all the promotion. How did you react when you found out that
you were going to be the poster girl?
LG: Ernie, I was so flattered. I remember very
clearly Bob taking me aside and showing me the final mock-up of what they were
going to use. I couldn’t believe it. I said, “This is what you’re gonna use as
the poster?” And, of course, I had no idea that the film was going to have such
a long life. So it’s wonderful and sort of funny that, now, here I am at
conventions signing posters and photos of my face with a plastic bag covering
it. (Laughs) And now, when things get slow at these conventions, I just take a
plastic bag out and put it over my head and everybody starts coming over.
(Laughs) Maybe just to save me. Give me a little CPR. (Laughs) But yeah, that
image was used on all the posters, lobby cards, VHS and DVD covers. Everything.
That was pretty cool. I’m extremely flattered even though it’s not the nicest
picture I’ve ever taken. But that image became so iconic that when Facebook
first came on the scene and people found out who I was, I was flooded with
friend requests from fans who wanted autographs all because of that image. It’s
very flattering.
EM: I’m
glad you feel that way because some actors tend to want to distance themselves
from horror movies they’ve made.
LG: I’m not only proud of my work in the horror
genre, but I’m a horror film fan.
EM: You’re perfect! (Laughs)
LG: That’s true. (Laughs)
EM: Lynne, thanks so much
for taking time out to chat with me.
LG: Aw, thank you, Ernie. I enjoyed it.
If you’d like to purchase one of Lynne’s
super-cool and handmade Black Christmas
snow globes or ornaments, feel free to contact her on Facebook.
Also, be sure to go to YouTube to check out It’s Me, Billy: Chapter II (and Chapter I); a very well-made tribute
film and sequel to Black Christmas
which features Lynne (in a different role).
(This interview is dedicated to the memories
of Bob Clark, John Saxon, Margot Kidder, Marian Waldman, James Edmond and Les
Carlson. R.I.P.)
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